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Copper shim question – Do you add copper shims or pennies?

December 17, 2011 by DoubleClickItToFixIt.com

This section will try to answer the most often asked questions I get.

Copper shim question – Do you add copper shims or pennies?

Your issue with the onboard BGA chipset is heat related. HP DV2000, DV6000, DV9000, TX1000, Dell D620, D630, D630, D820, D830 systems with Nvidia chipsets have the known BGA issues that I can fix by reflowing them.

Now, the question above is asked to me constantly. I personally do not use copper shims.

Copper shims and pennies before 1981 do not fix your issue, but do more to hamper it.

You will have three things that can happen. These are an electrical arc, an overload, or a soldering issue.

Your chipsets on your laptop 9 out of 10 times are fine if that have not been worked with in anyway and can be reflowed properly. The chipsets have capacitors located on the top and these capacitors are actually made of ferrite. When you apply Artic Silver and the copper shim in direct contact with your chipset you have stress fractures or arcing. Heat will cause the chipset to move up and down, by design, and will cause the copper to flex causing the capacitor to complete a circuit arcing between the chipset, the shim, and the heatsink which has copper in it. Placing a plastic spacer does not help any since the heat will melt, deform, or damage the chipset in its own right.

Now your chipset may get an overload and burn it out internally with no outer signs. Usually on a DV6000 system you will see a three capacitor cluster on the motherboard overload, and burn the planing of the motherboard. Overloading will cause the chipset to pull more power in the board causing stress on other chipsets such as the MAX8774, Max8724E, and MAX8734A.

The simplest issue is that your chipset will heat and the shim causes the solder to glob or puddle on the underside of the chipset. There is a reason the CPU is 5mm and the GPU is 3mm with no need to place a copper shim in to damage that design no matter how poor it may be now or before.

For more details on helping your system not overheat please check this question:

Copper shim issues and how to fix it

What if my need is not listed?

As an electronics technician, laptops and desktops are not the only items I work on. If you have a specific need that is not isted above, please feel free to email me at james@doubleclickittofixit.com or call 706-307-9689.

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Ryan Hardee DV4-1220US System Reflow Repair on CND9042Z86

October 18, 2011 by DoubleClickItToFixIt.com

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689
http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com

Ryan,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

HP DV4-1220US with the serialization of CND9042Z86

As agreed your system is billed at $125.00 per system.

Now, with the HP DV4-1220US with the serialization of CND9042Z86 has been reflowed. The system board was labeled HP SPS 511858-001. The system reflowed on both the AMD Radeon IGP 0840 chipset.

After the reflow of the chipset, we noticed your system was not working correctly. We ran our diagnostics software on the system and found it came back with the following error. Your processor was found to be failed and damaged. The processor was exchanged, and found the new processor caused the system to display a repaired system.

Please keep in mind you need to reapply thermal compound such as Artic Silver 5. You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com/tips.html

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com/img

The system repair can be found here along with the explanation of how we repair systems in our shop and what we do to process the repair. The HP DV4-1220US video displays our system, repair processes, and what settings we use with our IR system to reflow your system.

Filed Under: System Repairs Tagged With: 511858-001, amd, AMD Radeon IGP, artic silver, artic silver 5, ati, ati radeon, ATI Radeon RX781, BGA, chipset, chipsets, CND9042Z86, GeForce, hp, HP DV4-1220US, Laptop Reflow Repair, overheating, reflow

Can your local laptop or computer shop fix that?

April 13, 2011 by DoubleClickItToFixIt.com

As a computer repair shop we see a number of damaged computer-related electronics pass through our door daily, but we also see a number of strictly electronic items from time to time. For example we had a gentleman in our local town bring us a solar panel that had a damaged crystal oscillator, if you need an explanation this will help here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oscillator, that we tested, changed, and repaired his unit.

To the point, we are not just an average break fix computer company. We are not just a degree holding computer repair facility. We are not just a reflow and reballing facility. We are an electronics company.

We fix TVs. We fix amplifiers. We fix stereos. We fix laptops. We fix desktops. We fix TCUs. We fix printers. We fix battery chargers. We fix about anything that can be soldered or tested with a scope, multimeter, or continuity tester.

We use only Hakko-branded equipment for our fine pitch soldering. We have all Fluke-branded electrical test equipment.

Below is an example of a system that was sent to a Florida-based repair facility off of eBay who could not fix the unit. Their solution was to replace the motherboard. For all their soldering knowledge, testing equipment, and time they only could suggest a motherboard replacement.

In the picture above the mosFET, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosfet, was damaged due to a short overloading one of the gates. This simple solder work can only be performed by hand, with the right equipment, and with the correct knowledge.

After the pick and place parts repair was performed we had a fully working and functional machine for our client in less than 24 hours.

Now can your computer shop do this for you? If not, then we are willing to offer you a deal to try our service out in the state of Georgia.

Write me at one of the contacts below and I will make sure to make it worth your time:

Website: http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/james_c_howell
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/james-howell/29/221/696
Google: http://www.google.com/search?q=doubleclickittofixit.com
Email: http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com/contact/email-address/

Filed Under: Helpful Tips Tagged With: amd, broken laptop, burned, damaged motherboard, dv2000, dv6000, dv9000, hot, ic, mosfet

Robert Peeples HP DV6423OM System Repair on CNF723042B

April 6, 2011 by DoubleClickItToFixIt.com

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689
http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com

Robert,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

HP DV6423OM with the serialization of CNF723042B

Now, with the HP DV6423OM with the serialization of CNF723042B has been evaluated, repaired, and is ready for return. The system is labeled HP Spare 443775-001. The system required a reflow on the Nvidia GeForce GO6150 (NF-G6150-N-A2) and Nvidia NF-430-N-A3 chipsets.

No power adapter was found within the box. A note requesting a power supply was left within the box.

No hard drive was found within your system or box. In this case, you will need to follow the directions below to finalize a successful repair.

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied once the system is repaired.. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com/img

Your system was shipped without a prepaid Fedex label or account for return shipping. The system will be shipped back using Fedex COD. A check was cashed covering the repair charges.

Filed Under: System Repairs Tagged With: 443775-001, amd, artic silver, artic silver 5, BGA, chipset, chipsets, CNF723042B, dv6000, DV6423OM, GeForce, go6150, hp, NF-430-N-A3, NF-G6150-N-A2, nvidia, overheating, reflow

Joost Kamphuis HP TX1127EA System Repair on CNF7191YFZ

January 18, 2011 by DoubleClickItToFixIt.com Leave a Comment

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689
http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com

Joost,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

HP TX1127EA with the serialization of CNF7191YFZ

Now, with the HP TX1127EA with the serialization of CNF7191YFZ has been evaluated and is ready for further authorization. The system is labeled HP Spare 441097-001. The system required a reflow on the Nvidia GeForce GO6150 (NF-G6150-N-A2) and Nvidia NF-430-N-A3 chipsets.

This service did not fix your current system due to the copper shim being in place. The shim damaged the chipset which will need replaced.

A power adapter was found within the box.

Your system displayed a typical penny fix copper shimming repair. In your specific case this was performed with a one euro cent piece. The previous repair was performed with a copper shim. This copper shim was disposed of by us. Please read our link here for a better explanation of why copper shims are not used by our repair facility: http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com/update-this-is-why-you-do-not-use-copper-shims/

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied once the system is repaired.. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com/img

Filed Under: System Repairs Tagged With: 441097-001, amd, copper shim, copper shims, go6150, hp, Joost Kamphuis, nvidia, reflow, repair, tx1000, TX1127EA

David Odegard HP DV9925NR System Repair on CNF83503NB

January 13, 2011 by DoubleClickItToFixIt.com

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689
http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com

David,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

DV9925NR with the serialization of CNF83503NB

Now, with the HP DV9925NR with the serialization of CNF83503NB has been reflowed. The system is labeled HP Spare 459567-001. The system required a reflow on the Nvidia GeForce MCP67MV-A2 chipset.

A power adapter was found within the box with this system.

As requested on the phone, your BIOS chip was removed and reflashed. The system still displayed a no boot situation.

Memory was tested and tested working. The system still displayed a no boot situation

The processor tested damaged. The processor is labeled TL-60. This damaged part kept the system from booting properly post reflow rework and will need to be removed, replaced, or exchanged to achieve a properly booting system.

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com, ATI.com, and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://applelogicboardrepairservice.com/img if any are to be viewed.

Filed Under: System Repairs Tagged With: 459567-001, amd, artic silver, artic silver 5, BGA, chipset, chipsets, CNF83503NB, David Odegard, DV9925NR, hp, MCP67MV-A2, TL-60

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