Copper shim question – Do you add copper shims or pennies?

This section will try to answer the most often asked questions I get.

Copper shim question – Do you add copper shims or pennies?

Your issue with the onboard BGA chipset is heat related. HP DV2000, DV6000, DV9000, TX1000, Dell D620, D630, D630, D820, D830 systems with Nvidia chipsets have the known BGA issues that I can fix by reflowing them.

Now, the question above is asked to me constantly. I personally do not use copper shims.

Copper shims and pennies before 1981 do not fix your issue, but do more to hamper it.

You will have three things that can happen. These are an electrical arc, an overload, or a soldering issue.

Your chipsets on your laptop 9 out of 10 times are fine if that have not been worked with in anyway and can be reflowed properly. The chipsets have capacitors located on the top and these capacitors are actually made of ferrite. When you apply Artic Silver and the copper shim in direct contact with your chipset you have stress fractures or arcing. Heat will cause the chipset to move up and down, by design, and will cause the copper to flex causing the capacitor to complete a circuit arcing between the chipset, the shim, and the heatsink which has copper in it. Placing a plastic spacer does not help any since the heat will melt, deform, or damage the chipset in its own right.

Now your chipset may get an overload and burn it out internally with no outer signs. Usually on a DV6000 system you will see a three capacitor cluster on the motherboard overload, and burn the planing of the motherboard. Overloading will cause the chipset to pull more power in the board causing stress on other chipsets such as the MAX8774, Max8724E, and MAX8734A.

The simplest issue is that your chipset will heat and the shim causes the solder to glob or puddle on the underside of the chipset. There is a reason the CPU is 5mm and the GPU is 3mm with no need to place a copper shim in to damage that design no matter how poor it may be now or before.

For more details on helping your system not overheat please check this question:

Copper shim issues and how to fix it

What if my need is not listed?

As an electronics technician, laptops and desktops are not the only items I work on. If you have a specific need that is not isted above, please feel free to email me at james@doubleclickittofixit.com or call 706-307-9689.

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Ryan Hardee DV4-1220US System Reflow Repair on CND9042Z86

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689

http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com

Ryan,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

HP DV4-1220US with the serialization of CND9042Z86

As agreed your system is billed at $125.00 per system.

Now, with the HP DV4-1220US with the serialization of CND9042Z86 has been reflowed. The system board was labeled HP SPS 511858-001. The system reflowed on both the AMD Radeon IGP 0840 chipset.

After the reflow of the chipset, we noticed your system was not working correctly. We ran our diagnostics software on the system and found it came back with the following error. Your processor was found to be failed and damaged. The processor was exchanged, and found the new processor caused the system to display a repaired system.

Please keep in mind you need to reapply thermal compound such as Artic Silver 5. You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/tips.html

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/img

The system repair can be found here along with the explanation of how we repair systems in our shop and what we do to process the repair. The HP DV4-1220US video displays our system, repair processes, and what settings we use with our IR system to reflow your system.

Robert Peeples HP DV6423OM System Repair on CNF723042B

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689

http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com

Robert,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

HP DV6423OM with the serialization of CNF723042B

Now, with the HP DV6423OM with the serialization of CNF723042B has been evaluated, repaired, and is ready for return. The system is labeled HP Spare 443775-001. The system required a reflow on the Nvidia GeForce GO6150 (NF-G6150-N-A2) and Nvidia NF-430-N-A3 chipsets.

No power adapter was found within the box. A note requesting a power supply was left within the box.

No hard drive was found within your system or box. In this case, you will need to follow the directions below to finalize a successful repair.

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied once the system is repaired.. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/img

Your system was shipped without a prepaid Fedex label or account for return shipping. The system will be shipped back using Fedex COD. A check was cashed covering the repair charges.

Marc Eli HP DV6305US System Repair on CNF7190KT8

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689

http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com

Marc,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

HP DV6305US with the serialization of CNF7190KT8

Now, with the HP DV6305US with the serialization of CNF7190KT8 has been evaluated, repaired, and is ready for return. The system is labeled HP Spare 443775-001. The system required a reflow on the Nvidia GeForce GO6150 (NF-G6150-N-A2) and Nvidia NF-430-N-A3 chipsets.

A power adapter was left with your system.

A hard drive was found within your system or box. You will not need to follow the directions below to finalize a successful repair.

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied once the system is repaired.. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/img

Your system was shipped without a prepaid Fedex label or account for return shipping. Payment will be made upon pickup from the store location.

David Odegard HP DV9925NR System Repair on CNF83503NB

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689

http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com

David,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

DV9925NR with the serialization of CNF83503NB

Now, with the HP DV9925NR with the serialization of CNF83503NB has been reflowed. The system is labeled HP Spare 459567-001. The system required a reflow on the Nvidia GeForce MCP67MV-A2 chipset.

A power adapter was found within the box with this system.

As requested on the phone, your BIOS chip was removed and reflashed. The system still displayed a no boot situation.

Memory was tested and tested working. The system still displayed a no boot situation

The processor tested damaged. The processor is labeled TL-60. This damaged part kept the system from booting properly post reflow rework and will need to be removed, replaced, or exchanged to achieve a properly booting system.

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com, ATI.com, and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/img if any are to be viewed.

Arthur Richardson HP DV9040US System Repair on CNF6414RLK

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689

http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com

Arthur,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

HP DV9040US with the serialization of CNF6414RLK

Now, with the HP DV9040US with the serialization of CNF6414RLK has been reflowed. The system is labeled HP Spare 444002-001. The system required a reflow on the Nvidia GeForce GO7600 (NF-GO7600-N-A2), Intel SLA5Y, and Intel SLA5B chipsets.

A power adapter was found within the box with this system.

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com, ATI.com, and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/img if any are to be viewed.

Your system was shipped with a prepaid Fedex label or account for return shipping. A check for $125.00 was also enclosed with your shipment.

UPDATE: ANOTHER eBAY SELLER WITH A COPPER SHIM REPAIR FAILURE!!!!!

I have stated time and time again to my users why I do not use copper shims. This is a prime, grade A example of what can, will, and does happen with copper shims.

This laptop came in from an owner whom brought their laptop to me from Dalton, Georgia. A copper shim was placed on his system from a laptop repair center from the United States that he used off of eBay. I am not naming names of the offending company, but I will post the pictures.

DO NOT USE COPPER SHIMS! As the pictures display, this copper shim damaged the system. In previous examples the system displayed a damaged and cracked chipset. This system displayed a overloaded capacitor issue. This happens when the power coming in the system is modified due to the chipset not failing due to the copper shim. In short, the copper shim does not let the chipset overhead or fail then the power just amps up and causes a system failure.

This failure occured within the MosFET area labeled AO4407 and a three capacitor cluster. This failure is unrepairable due to the planing within the layers in the motherboard.

If you need your laptop fixed, check this link: http://doubleclickittofixit.com/pricing/laptop-bga-reflow/

Cornelio in Dalton, GA HP DV6629WM System Repair on CNF747218LBDV6629WM

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689

http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com

Cornelio,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

HP DV6629WM with the serialization of CNF747218LB

Now, with the HP DV6500 with the serialization of CNF747218LB has been reflowed and is ready for return. The system is labeled HP Spare 449903-001. The system required a reflow on the Nvidia GeForce MCP67M-A2 chipset.

A power adapter was found with this system.

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com, ATI.com, and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/img if any are to be viewed.

Payment will be recovered at the time of delivery in person.

Scott Taylor Compaq F700 System Repair on CNF7351XC6

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689

http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com

Scott,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

Compaq F700 with the serialization of CNF7351XC6

Now, with the HP Compaq F700 with the serialization of CNF7351XC6 has been reflowed and is ready for return. The system is labeled HP Spare *****-001. The system required a reflow on the Nvidia GeForce MCP67MV-A2 chipset.

A power adapter was found with this system.

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com, ATI.com, and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/img if any are to be viewed.

Payment will be recovered at the time of delivery in person.

Gordon Shar HP DV9225US System Repair on CNF6523F97

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689

http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com

Gordon,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

HP DV9225US with the serialization of CNF6523F97

Now, with the HP DV9225US with the serialization of CNF6523F97 has been reflowed and is ready for return. The system is labeled HP Spare *****-001. The system required a reflow on the Nvidia GeForce GO6150 (NF-G6150-N-A2) and NF-430-N-A3 chipsets.

A power adapter was found with this system.

The system also displayed a damaged MOSfet located at the power in cycling area. The damaged component was labeled AO4407 and was located on PQ1. PL11 was damaged on both sides, positive and negative, and was replaced accordingly. PD3 tested good, and was not changed.

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com, ATI.com, and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/img if any are to be viewed.

Payment will be recovered by way of Fedex COD.

Steven E. Orr HP DV7-1130US System Repair on CND84038L6

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689

http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com

Steven,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

HP DV7-1130US with the serialization of CND84038L6

Now, with the HP DV7-1130US with the serialization of CND84038L6 has been repaired and is ready for return. The system is labeled HP Spare 486541-001. The system required a reflow on the ATI Radeon RX781 chipset. The system also displayed damaged memory in both sticks of Samsung DDR2 2GB. After replacing this RAM with a shop supplied 1GB RAM stick for testing your system displayed a booting system. The paperwork requested a virus cleaning, but the system displayed a Windows password. The password was removed to begin a virus cleaning which displayed a number of virus, malware, and Trojans within the system.

No power adapter was found within the box. Your paperwork also stated no adapter was shipped.

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/img

Your system was shipped with a prepaid Fedex label for return shipping. Since that shipping label is to be used, you will need to mail and check or money order in the below amount to finalize the transaction, and post your system at completely paid off. The services requested were a reflow in the amount of $125.00 and a virus scanning in the amount of $50.00. Since your system required extra diagnostics, the memory is billed at $65.00 per 2GB RAM stick up to 4GB as previously located within your system. Also the virus cleaning was requested, but no password was supplied so the password removal is billed at $50.00 also. Your total check should be for the amount of $355.00. You have 30 days to make this payment from the time this email is sent. Payment can be delivered to our new office at the above address.

If you have a laptop that requires a reflow, and you would like to receive a service purchasing options are listed below.










Shantelle Polk HP DV6408NR System Repair on CNF7272MC2

James Howell
DoubleClickItToFixIt.com
7472 Nashville Street
Ringgold, GA 30736
706-307-9689

http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com

Shantelle,

This email will serve as an update on the status and repair of your systems sent in.

Currently I have listed the following machines sent in for repair by you:

HP DV6408NR with the serialization of CNF7272MC2

Now, with the HP DV6408NR with the serialization of CNF7272MC2 has been repaired and is ready for return. The system is labeled HP Spare 443775-001. The system required a reflow on the Nvidia GeForce GO6150 (NF-G6150-N-A2) and Nvidia NF-430-N-A3 chipsets.

No power adapter was found within the box.

Your system displayed a typical penny fix copper shimming repair. The previous repair was performed with a copper shim. This copper shim was disposed of by us. Please read our link here for a better explanation of why copper shims are not used by our repair facility: http://doubleclickittofixit.com/update-this-is-why-you-do-not-use-copper-shims/

You also need to update the video drivers from Nvidia.com and the BIOS from HP if one is to be applied. Please advise your end user to purchase a cooling pad to help insure the removal of heat from the system.

If you need more help in explaining these areas to your end user, please visit http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/helpful-hints/

Pictures of the repair can be viewed at http://www.doubleclickittofixit.com/img

Your system was shipped without a prepaid Fedex label or account for return shipping. You have two options to make payment and have your system shipped back. Payment can be made by check or money order delivered to our shop or you can pay by COD when the Fedex truck delivers your package. The service requested was a reflow in the amount of $125 plus shipping which is estimated at $16.38. Your total check should be for the amount of $141.38. If you pay by COD, your shipping will be included in the amount plus a COD handling fee determined by Fedex based on the payment choice they accept from you. These fees range from $5 to $25, and are solely determined by Fedex and Fedex alone. You have 30 days to make this payment from the time this email is sent. Payment can be delivered to our new office at the above address if you are mailing a check.

If you have a laptop that requires a reflow, and you would like to receive a service purchasing options are listed below.